i need moar batteriez

[pimpedout97x]

ok so ive got 3 out of the 5 amps total for the mini.

next on the list will be my other recone and CA glue, so robin and i can recone them.

i need batteries..

trying to keep the weight as low as humanly possible.

ideas?

my stock battery is in the back, so theres nothing up front to begin with.

im thinking 3 batteries?

what do you guys suggest..weight is gonna KILL me....but i cant just not run batteries...

[apox]

ok so ive got 3 out of the 5 amps total for the mini.

next on the list will be my other recone and CA glue, so robin and i can recone them.

i need batteries..

trying to keep the weight as low as humanly possible.

ideas?

my stock battery is in the back, so theres nothing up front to begin with.

im thinking 3 batteries?

what do you guys suggest..weight is gonna KILL me....but i cant just not run batteries...

do you have ANY room under the seats??

[drop bottom]

probly not... 3 2400s ... lose the idea of keepin the weight down

[pimpedout97x]

no room under seats.

im thinkin about 3 big batts like u said, but i think ill go with powermaster before kinetik

[Needdirections]

http://www.battery-usa.com/NorthStarBatteryCo.htm

[iamamp3pimp]

kenny pollock had one of those NSB 90's

[NeillBarber]

Man up.


http://www.floridaspl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4535


NOt too likely you'll decide to get anything anyway. You'll just talk bout it and ask what you should get for the next 6 months.

Or option 2 is to impulsively buy something let it sit in your closet for a month and put it back on here for sale.


Im betting on #2.
NeillBarber

[pimpedout97x]

Man up.


http://www.floridaspl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4535

make me a 16V alt and bracket and fit it in my engine bay and ill buy 3.

otherwise, no.


NOt too likely you'll decide to get anything anyway. You'll just talk bout it and ask what you should get for the next 6 months.

Or option 2 is to impulsively buy something let it sit in your closet for a month and put it back on here for sale.


Im betting on #2.
NeillBarber

dont talk ****, then link me to your for sale thread for 16 batteries you bought and a charger that you bought 2 years ago, and are now selling them.

Bought 16 more HC16v's a few months ago for a rebuild and am now not going to use them. Need them gone.

Also have a 25 amp Kinetik charger I bought as a back up 2 years ago but have never used it.


PM offers.



NeillBArber

[Stephen_c]

I was thinking the same thing


http://theinsanityreport.com/images/pot_kettle.jpg

[pimpedout97x]

exactly.

[PEDRO MODEAN]

have you considered using some of the space in the box for a batt or two. or is that just silly?

[PEDRO MODEAN]

so i was checking out this link http://www.battery-usa.com/Catalog/NSB40FT.pdf

and thought would 2 of these fit under your seats? with a third elsewhere.

[pimpedout97x]

i thought of putting some in the box but it would just take up space.

although 2 HC2400's would take up about 1 cube in the box...might try it out and see if it affects anything.

[pimpedout97x]

so i was checking out this link http://www.battery-usa.com/Catalog/NSB40FT.pdf

and thought would 2 of these fit under your seats? with a third elsewhere.

those are an option, but

how much are they, and what type of battery would those compare to? maybe like a kinetik 1800 or something?

[PEDRO MODEAN]

those are an option, but

how much are they, and what type of battery would those compare to? maybe like a kinetik 1800 or something?

if your asking me i dont know :confused:. i was just checking out the link and saw thier size and thought they might work great for your application.

[NeillBarber]

make me a 16V alt and bracket and fit it in my engine bay and ill buy 3.

otherwise, no..


Pay the bill and Ill make it happen.




dont talk ****, then link me to your for sale thread for 16 batteries you bought and a charger that you bought 2 years ago, and are now selling them.


Do I already have a fully functional competition system? I decided not to upgrade. A lil diff than never finishing one project in the first place.



NeillBarber

[pimpedout97x]

Pay the bill and Ill make it happen.

NeillBarber

Is the outcome going to resemble your awesome door panels, where you can see you just made a speaker baffle and just covered it in fabric?

[NeillBarber]

Here's the deal and the low down on some battery situations I see asked and posted about on multiple forums.


To break this down.......(most people act like they have a clue and dont) Im going to over simplify for comprehension pourposes. To all raeding dont get offended or act like IM talking down Im just breaking this down like I do for customers.


Voltage and Amperage demand go hand and hand.

The higher the voltage (within reason) you can provide to your amplifiers power input the less amperage or battery (size) you will nedd for your amplifier to produce the same ampount of power.

Therefore the initial investment of an alternator or having your alternator converted for external regulation will be offset somewhat in the fact you will no longer need the same number or size(weight saving) batteries to achieve your power output goal.

My Blazer is a prime example. My choice for going to 16v 2 years ago was space saving and wiring ease. I simply did not have the room in my smaller truck for enough 12V batteries to maintain the power lever I intended to produce with the amplfiers in the truck.

Running 16V batteries in the Blazer with 12V posts also allowed me the 12-14V I needed to run ignition componants and other "sensitive" electronics including my radio and high end amplifiers.

IN conclusion wher you may need 3-2400's or similar batteries at 1.28cu ft of displacement and 207lbs. You could invest in a 16+ volt alternator and use 2-HC16V at .61 cu ft if displacement and 108lbs. The 2400's new would cost you around $750-900 and the HC16v's would cost $400


Hope this info helps.



NeillBarber

[NeillBarber]

Is the outcome going to resemble your awesome door panels, where you can see you just made a speaker baffle and just covered it in fabric?

At least I finished them...........


As youve never generated any kind of SPL you would never understand what it takes to make anything durable.

You should see my alternator bracket.



NeillBarber

[Pipo]

You can always read below my signature:)

[NeillBarber]

You can always read below my signature:)



There you go! Cheap and easy. PIPO FTW!



NEillBarber

[pimpedout97x]

Here's the deal and the low down on some battery situations I see asked and posted about on multiple forums.


To break this down.......(most people act like they have a clue and dont) Im going to over simplify for comprehension pourposes. To all raeding dont get offended or act like IM talking down Im just breaking this down like I do for customers.


Voltage and Amperage demand go hand and hand.

The higher the voltage (within reason) you can provide to your amplifiers power input the less amperage or battery (size) you will nedd for your amplifier to produce the same ampount of power.

Therefore the initial investment of an alternator or having your alternator converted for external regulation will be offset somewhat in the fact you will no longer need the same number or size(weight saving) batteries to achieve your power output goal.

My Blazer is a prime example. My choice for going to 16v 2 years ago was space saving and wiring ease. I simply did not have the room in my smaller truck for enough 12V batteries to maintain the power lever I intended to produce with the amplfiers in the truck.

Running 16V batteries in the Blazer with 12V posts also allowed me the 12-14V I needed to run ignition componants and other "sensitive" electronics including my radio and high end amplifiers.

IN conclusion wher you may need 3-2400's or similar batteries at 1.28cu ft of displacement and 207lbs. You could invest in a 16+ volt alternator and use 2-HC16V at .61 cu ft if displacement and 108lbs. The 2400's new would cost you around $750-900 and the HC16v's would cost $400


Hope this info helps.



NeillBarber

i agree 100%.

but i cant even find a 12v alt for my car, that isnt going to cost upwards of 600 dollars, and thats just for a 180A. 600+ isnt worth spending for 75A more than my stock alt.

so how am i going to get a 16V alt?

also, theres NO room. i doubt there can be a second alt fit in my engine bay.

would be nice to run 16v, but its probably more work than 12v.

Pipo, how much?

[NeillBarber]

You send a factory alt to Rick at h-o-alternators.com and he converts it to external reg.




poof.



NeillBarber

[pimpedout97x]

for how much money.......................and itll still be the 105A output?

[Pipo]

There you go! Cheap and easy. PIPO FTW!



NEillBarber

Don't hate the player hate the game:eyebrow:

[Chuck]

Don't hate the player hate the game:eyebrow:

<3 :eyebrow:

In a totally heterosexual way.

[Needdirections]

Don't hate the player hate the game:eyebrow:

lmao!!


VJ...I don't think you've really exhausted all the alternator possibilities. There are definitely people out there who have the know-how to make something work for you. Some shop may not sell the exact thing you need, but chances are you can find someone who can make this work.

[pimpedout97x]

plenty people can make an alt for my car

but as stated previously,

$600+ isnt worth gaining only 75 extra amps out of my alt.

if i was paying 600+ and getting maybe a 300a or bigger, ok, maybe then. but not a 180A alt for over 600 bux...

thats horse****.

[bluefit]

mechman told me $600 for a 250a peak 150a idle alt for my honda fit since they dont make them

[pimpedout97x]

i PMed him 98345897 times and i never get a reply, so i forgot about him.

[AutoMediaPro]

Keep in mind the idle output is alot of what you may be paying for. . how much it's worth .. I'm not sure. .

As for batteries. . are you going to bass race or burp? The guys at Powermaster are very helpful in suggesting real world solutions vs. application.

I think the bottom line is that there is no way to have your cake and eat it too, though.

How much power are you going to run? I don't think you can go wrong with Kinetik, NSB, or XS Power .. all quality products.

If you go 16V and no room for a second alt, I hear people are doing well using these ..

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/AutoMediaPro/993StepDown.jpg

http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/16v_battery_charger.html

[pimpedout97x]

6000w rms+ on the subs

800-1000rms on the mids

about 400-500rms on tweets

[AutoMediaPro]

Wow, in the Mini?? Well, build all you want if you don't have the batteries and alt. . . IMO

http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/tech_help.html

Call or email .. they have been very helpful to me.

[KickinAudio]

Shouldn't you have done this stuff first? Thats a lot of equipment on a couple 12v batteries.

[NeillBarber]

No need for second second alternators or step down boxes with Kinetik batteries.



NeillBarber

[pimpedout97x]

ok

so i get a 16V alt, and it charges the batteries, and run the car and stuff off the 12v post, but i wouldnt actually need a 12v alt becuase the battery has the 12v post (and the entire battery would get charged by the 16v alt right?)

[Cookie Monster]

ok

so i get a 16V alt, and it charges the batteries, and run the car and stuff off the 12v post, but i wouldnt actually need a 12v alt becuase the battery has the 12v post (and the entire battery would get charged by the 16v alt right?)

That would be correct.

[NeillBarber]

Ding ding!! You got it. Blazers been set up like that for 2 years.



NeillBArber

[JEXTEL]

get your self the MLA module and 4 lfb2000's or batcap 2000s there only 34-35lbs ea!

[Mike Troll]

Hindsight just kicked VJ in the ace! real talk! I am having the same problem though....my alternator is crazy expensive and controlled by the ECU which makes having one a mute point. I however am not stupid crazy like you and putting 6000 watts in a car that cant back it with electrical.

[drop bottom]

mini cooper rebuild thread coming soon to a forum near you

[pimpedout97x]

fail

[drop bottom]

where you gonna put batteries then... super great planner guy

[pimpedout97x]

one in the factory location, then 2 more right behind the wall (right above factory battery location)

smart guy :pointnlaugh: