Had to add $50 for the two sheets of cabinet ply I'ma pick up at HD hopefully this weekend. Everything else was traded straight up for what I already had. That means it's officially build log time.

Pics of gear:
RD Alpha Max/PSI Hybrid 15D2. Hit the motor and basket with my rim cleaner.
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Current dustcap (not glued down yet).
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What will replace the current decal.
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Soundstream RUB1.2500D. I am smitten :greddy2:.
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My first official box design.
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Thanks to BYC for teh sketchup.
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Sub/port forward into cabin, sealed off from trunk in this area.
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That's about does it for now. Should be gettin wood this weekend, but might be next.

Goals are obviously teh lows. But, I have been doin 12's in the trunk lately and while they kill the lows, it's just not enough output for me. So, I got a bigger sub, bigger amp, and I'm sealing off the trunk. Think it will work?

:hairtrick:

:hairtrick:

I wish. :yeah:

:hairtrick:

^ x2

Current setup:
Skar VVX-12D2 on the RUB1.2500D at 1 ohm in a BHE 2.0^3 @ 30Hz Box. Pending payment.
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Sounds really good. Rubicon is definitely cleaner than the American Bass. Have the gain almost 1/2 on the Skar at vol 52/62 and it is takin it better than it did the VFL imo.

BTW, thanks guys. I can only hope.

Will be gettin wood tomorrow, but still can't build till next weekend. My dad has some stuff to take car of so no can do this weekend. Gotta use his truck asap to get the wood though as he will be switchin the tag over to his new car Tues.

Will be gettin wood tomorrow, but still can't build till next weekend. My dad has some stuff to take car of so no can do this weekend. Gotta use his truck asap to get the wood though as he will be switchin the tag over to his new car Tues.

good luck with the new build.

good luck with the new build.

Thanks. Your truck looks beast (even when you are hair trickin a guy, lol). Can't wait to catch it at a show for teh demoz.

I'm gettin wood thinkin about this build. Pics comin soon...

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Smooth Side
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Gonna use some 2x2's to frame the box out after I get my false floor layed and the box top secured to the bottom of the rear deck. Will give me something to screw to and add bracing to the panels at the same time. Going to use ripped down corners of the 2x2's for my 45's as well. As small of a piece as will adequately round off the corner for air flow.

How much displacement do you think that will add to my box? Thanks.

Thanks. Your truck looks beast (even when you are hair trickin a guy, lol). Can't wait to catch it at a show for teh demoz.

Hahahaha. Thanks :)

In the meantime I am tuned in for yours.

Not enough to matter.



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GTN, I was worried about it raising my tuning.

Rubie, meet Alpha :shake:. Awww, they're gonna be friends...

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I want to test one of those rubi's.

I want to test one of those rubi's.

I love it!! So much cleaner sounding than the American Bass was. Had the Skar gettin down this morning. Finally got it to sound how I wanted and I took it out, lol.

Stripped and waiting on table saw to cut the dance floor.

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only walls have dance floors man as well as having a box firing forward doesnt exactly qualify as a blowthru.

Are you done yet?



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only walls have dance floors man as well as having a box firing forward doesnt exactly qualify as a blowthru.

Are you done yet?

Hey, I can dream right?

Box is built. Camera died so no finished pics. Lettin the dustcap on the sub and the caulk I just applied inside the box to make sure it was sealed dry. Goin to Live Wire in the AM to fetch installation accessories. Should be playing but not sealed off from the trunk by tomorrow.

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Had to move the box farther back in the trunk than I had originally planned because I did not give myself enough clearence under the rear deck lip to get the top on. Ended up just installing the front panel and building the box from it. But, forgot to cut the hole out untill it was already glued and screwed. :banghead3: So, I cut it in the car and cut it to big. :rolleyes2: So, if anyone asks, it was meant to be double baffle the whole time, lol. Also as you can see, I forgot to leave a gap in the front 2x2 for the sub. That was a fun fix and most likely the reason the hole ended up to big...

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Hey, look. I finally built something!

Still looks good none the less, now let's see the finished product. ;-)

Ask and you shall recieve, well as finished as it's gonna get for now. Bout to head to Live Wire and grab some stuff I need for the 2.5K. Gonne get it playin and worry bout sealin off the trunk l8ta.

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BTW, please disregard the 1/4" lip sticking over on the top left hand side. Ish happens...

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Stupid dust cap came unglued as soon as I turned it up, lol. Sounded pretty good for that half of min. Reglued it more gooder. Girl leaves for work soon, so we'll see how it sounds around 1am...

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not too shabby bro , congrates. feels good dont it?

good to see you putting in some work man-

Yeah bro, thanks. Definitely a learning experience. Few things I would of done different, but overall very pleased with the outcome so far. Get this dustcap situation handled and see about gettin it sealed off from the trunk and a little purdier in there.

good to see you putting in some work man-

Yeah man, whole different feeling when you build something completely on your own. My dad cut the panels for me. The rest I did by myself. Put in about 12 hours straight yesterday and another 2-3 today. Feel like a crackhead waitin for a hit watchin the clock for 1 am lol. She gets off work and the cap should be dry. I'ma :teary: if it pops off again lol.

My girl just played it on a smoke break and said the dustcap is holdin up fine and it sounds great!!

Everything I'd hoped it be and more!! The best part is, it can only get louder! Can't wait to seal off the trunk.

250 amp fuse installed.
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Shortest power run ever FTW!

Looks good, bet it gets down

Reply from David to my Motor Info Thread on FixMySPeaker Forum CACO:

The motors are really the same on the Alpha and Alpha Maxx.

They have a small gap, and we only use 4 layer FW voice coils in them.

Should be a dual spider setup also.

So, a dual spider setup is why it's so stiff and not comin thru on the lows too much prolly? Still has to break in. Thought for a min maybe my box was tuned higher than I thought, but I think it just has to finish breakin in.

And yes it gets down, but rolls off below like 30. Think with the added 2x2 frame inside it might have actually raised my tuning upto like 32 or somethin. Still sounds great, but just not as low as I had hoped.

Just have to wait and see, I'm sure it's only gonna get lower and louder.

BTW, sub is laughin at the 2500 and the gain is about 3/4 of the way up.

2 spiders really isn't that much for 2500 watts rms, even if they were hard spiders I would think it would be moving just fine.

Sounds like the box is a little small or tuning is off to me, you also might be getting some cancellation aswell, IDK.

im telling you man, those 2x2s arent affecting your tuning by more than a half a hz which is inaudible anyway....



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True. Just have to wait and see if it breaks in and gets lower. I'm thinkin it will.

Just checked and rechecked my math, the port is the right length and width so tuning should be on point at 31Hz.

Sounds about right then for it to roll off hard under 30 hz in your case.



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Do you think sealing off the trunk will counteract that at all?

Have you sealed it off yet? You could be getting crazy cancelation if not.

Do you think sealing off the trunk will counteract that at all?

Have you sealed it off yet? You could be getting crazy cancelation if not.

Great minds think alike. :eyebrow:

Yep, stiff spiders.

It will handle 1200-1500w rms (maybe a little more but Im not guaranteeing it) depending on the install.

Yep, needs to break in...

the difference between 32 and 30 wouldnt be noticeable to you anyway. break in will help a little. biggest thing is getting the box sealed off from the cabin. where are all the vids?

Camera dropped by 2 year old ftl. Gonna see if I can get my hands on one.

that sux

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Is your port off by chance? Looks like you traced where that back wall should have been. That would change tuning.

i think it was traced wrong then put into the right place.

If thats the case then nevermind.

Yeah, box was originally supposed to be that much more forward, but i didn't acoount for the underneith of the rear deck rounding off at the corners near the strut towers and it didn't leave enough room for the corners of the top panel to slide forward into place. So, yeah that was the back wall but everything got moved back equally.


Cone would barely move when I first got ot. Them 2 spiders are pretty stiff. I'm sure it will fill in over the next few weeks, and as stated I really need to get it sealed off. It's like makin it to the 11th grade and droppin out...

Gonna put my vids here incase anyone ever actually checks this out.

All in HD! Watch in 720p!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buir5ee62KM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySrs_0HMAIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHGv7JPa9Uo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv5UlDeJsDQ

Everyone ****s when I tell them I only got about $650 into this build, lol.


BALLIN ON A BUDGET FTMFW!

"Ugly but Functional"

My new tweets. R.I.P. Q-Powers...

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what are those?

Will have to do till I can get up the money for my new Crescendo PA 4 ohm 8's and matching XST tweets!

what are those?

Towers from a 3 way 6x9, lol. Knocked the pole off and wired em in. Sound good, just had to back down the top 3 bands of my eq 2 knotches each.

Lmao!!!! I literally kicked those off of my Sony 6x9s this morning. Nothing but the best for my homey!

Lmao!!!! I literally kicked those off of my Sony 6x9s this morning. Nothing but the best for my homey!

You lost a day Dave. That was 2 days ago, lol. But thanks bro, had to have some highs.

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lookin good! bet they sound amazing

Now just gotta get the 4 ohm 8's and a set of the xovers for the XST's (found out Nendo had some made for these ftw!)

Decided to keep the trunk wall for now. Trading the sub for 2 AP15001D's and waiting for income tax to get a new sub (undecided but will probably be something from the FixMySpeaker Random Sub FS thread on the FMS forum :drools:...

oh.

They are very efficient and get loud on little power. My Eagle is bridged 8 ohms by 2 (90 rms per door between the 8 and the XST) and they are effin loud. Little harsh due to the 3.4 at 6db slope crossover point I have them at for now with a set of caps and the limited EQ on my head unit. Sure they will clean up alot with the crossovers I'm going to get from Crescendo for them.

Should get louder when the Nendo 8's go in as well as it will be crossed at 4 ohms then for 180 per door.

And I will have pods or full doors done one day, this will do for now as yall know I'm Ballin On A Budget.

What is the frequency cut off and slope on the nendo crossovers for those tweets?

What is the frequency cut off and slope on the nendo crossovers for those tweets?

sales@crescendoaudio.com

I have no idea, I just know Navid said they had them but didn't have any with them...

They are very efficient and get loud on little power.

Should get louder when the Nendo 8's go in as well as it will be crossed at 4 ohms then for 180 per door.

be careful. more power can lead to more distortion. i can understand wanting more headroom tho... im up to 500~550 watts on my front stage.

if i ever switched to PA loud speakers on that power id be deff. i heard some beymas at zades shop on 75 per (same power my mids get) and my eardrums were literally ringing...thats loud.

Just the man I wanted to talk to. Been looking at the ample crossover section on my HiFonics Eagle and think I got a plan figured out...

If I bridge my 8's on 1&2 I can hipass at 125 and low pass around 5K(?) then run my XST2's 8 ohms per channel on 3&4 hipassed where 1&2 are lowpassed. They will only be on like 25 rms each but should still get pretty loud and sound a hell of alot better.

Pretty sure if I leave the tweets stereo and bridge the mids I should still have some stereo effect from the tweets without it sounding so mono from the mids being bridged, right?

Also, using only 1 set of RCA's I'd have to go into input A and select full range input then set my Hipass to 5K? Then select lowpass from A as my B input, also selecting 2 channel mono as the lowpass setting. Then all I should have to do is set the hipass on the deck at 125 and 3&4 ouputs for my mids should be bandpassed correct.

Hope you can follow that. Here is a pic of the xover for reference.
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I have no idea, I just know Navid said they had them but didn't have any with them...

how do they sound on he cap i gave you?

you lost me there... i wouldn't bridge your 8's. unless you don't care if your listening in stereo or not.

how many outputs does your head unit have?

how do they sound on he cap i gave you?

They sound alright, just need to be crossed a lil higher with a steeper slope. Has some screech to it at higher vol now and i can't eq it out with eq on the headunit.

you lost me there... i wouldn't bridge your 8's. unless you don't care if your listening in stereo or not.

how many outputs does your head unit have?

2 sets.
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I'm just going to leave it for now, willbe gettin the Crescendo xovers next week anyways.

They sound alright, just need to be crossed a lil higher with a steeper slope. Has some screech to it at higher vol now and i can't eq it out with eq on the headunit.

do u have sound retrieval on? also u running loudness @ all on low med or hi?

Leave it stereo and don't worry so much about power right now. If anything work on gettting your matching mids then either get a bigger 4 channel amplifer or add on another amp for either mids or highs duty. Just a thought

S.Rtv is on 1, but I turned LOUD off (had it on low) and turned SLA to 0 (had it on 1).

Got 1.25K and 3.15K backed all the way down to -6 and 8K at -4 on my EQ.

S.Rtv is on 1, but I turned LOUD off (had it on low) and turned SLA to 0 (had it on 1).

try s rtv 3
sla 0n 2

try s rtv 3
sla 0n 2

My Srtv only goes to 2 :teary:...

ok, then just get a line out converter for the rear speaker outs and use your head units crossover to the 4 ch.. run it as a 4ch. to your mids and tweets.

thats how my front stage is set. front runs the doors and rear runs the dash...this way you can fade to match the sound coming from your speakers.

if anything you also gain the extra output from the other set of rca's so you dont have to run splitters and you can use the built in xover on your head and amp.

ok, then just get a line out converter for the rear speaker outs and use your head units crossover to the 4 ch.. run it as a 4ch. to your mids and tweets.

thats how my front stage is set. front runs the doors and rear runs the dash...this way you can fade to match the sound coming from your speakers.

if anything you also gain the extra output from the other set of rca's so you dont have to run splitters and you can use the built in xover on your head and amp.

this^^^

In case you wanted to know the Crescendo XST-CX crossovers are high passed at 4,400hz with a 12db slope.

In case you wanted to know the Crescendo XST-CX crossovers are high passed at 4,400hz with a 12db slope.

Thanks. Just realized I can run the tweets active off my HiFonics Eagle FTW! So I won't be needing the xovers afterall. My Eagle will also send the low pass thru the output into my 1kc4, then I can set the hpf on the 1kc4 bandpassing my cendo 8's.

Will be gettin a set of the new Crescendo 1" tweets as well when they come out just to run off the headunit channels. I already have the holes cut in the a pillars, might as well use em.